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bushman
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Posted - 03/05/2019 :  23:58:14 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The recommendation to remove Winter Fuel Payments, Bus Passes and free TV license for over 75s came from a committee in the House of Lords. The same people who are entitled to £ 305 per day attendance allowance, subsidised travel and subsidised restaurants.
There are some 800 members of this Upper House on average attending 141 days per year and for an average of 6 hours day . Not too bad an hourly rate , one days pay to buy a TV license and a bottle to enjoy with the subsidised meal. A wonderful institution. Pass the port and keep the peasants in their placy
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keanjo
Super Member

United Kingdom
1298 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2019 :  10:58:43 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bushman ,whilst I agree with your post we must not forget that the Lords are no longer the landed gentry but parasitic former politicians from all the parties who use the Lords as a luxury day centre for their retirement.High time it was replaced by an elected senate.
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keanjo
Super Member

United Kingdom
1298 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2019 :  08:13:29 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the licence is required to receive television ,how can the government justify giving it solely to one programme provider ?
This appears to be the first shot against the elderly by this government who are also targeting other pensioner perks like free bus passes ,medication ,pension inflation guarantees.
Only one way to stop this attack is to make it clear to the government that it will lead to a wholesale withdrawal of th grey vote support for their party.
Boris has just informed his party that if he is elected to the leadership he will raise the 40p tax threshold to £80,000 pa
How about a statement from him in support of the poorer section of th population?
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ddraig
Super Member

United Kingdom
1567 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2019 :  10:38:10 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I particularly admire the underhand way that this government has gone about cancelling the free for over 75s TV licence, this was a conservative manifesto promise in 2017, the Dirty Tricks government department then decided to shunt the responsibility to the BBC who would get the blame for cancelling it. Way to go, Boris, sod the struggling poor, give the well off more money. I think they should cancel their summer recess (holiday of around SEVEN weeks!!) and get on with sorting out Brexit, mounting job losses and fill the large hole they've left this country in.
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milkman
Super Member

United Kingdom
1498 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2019 :  11:06:02 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was amused? that the CEO of the Beeb had conducted a survey as to what should be done-
48% said it should be retained.
About 36% said it should be dropped and the remainder said "Dont know".
The CEO decided that this meant that 52% had decided it should be dropped.No wonder Lineker Winklemann and the like are on such huge salaries.
Clearly the Beeb has yet to understand simple arithmetic and grammar.
All they know is that their salaries should be big.
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darole
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United Kingdom
2583 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2019 :  18:22:40 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
realistically. I would like to know what % of the BBC Viewers are aged over 50. I believe that a lot of the younger people watch netflix, football, motor sport etc on channels that they willingly pay extra for.
So Why should we continue subsidise the BBC?
Itís time to scrap the fee and make the bbc stand on their own feet commercially. Let them go into the market place and work for their exorbitant wages.
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keanjo
Super Member

United Kingdom
1298 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2019 :  18:41:24 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Darole ,Iím with you on that idea . why not float it as a parliamentary question.
If the government get away with this ,pensioners can expect an attack on winter allowances , free medication ,bus passes and state pensions and we need to make it clear that we will not vote for any government which attacks us in this way
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ddraig
Super Member

United Kingdom
1567 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2019 :  10:42:19 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been watching "Good Omens" on Amazon and although not really a Terry Pratchett fan am finding it very good and thought-provokingly funny with good performances by Michael Sheen, David Tennant, Jack Whitehall and Francis McDormand as the voice of God. It is a co-production between amazon studios and BBC studios and will be shown later weekly on BBC2. I was just wondering how much each studio contributes to the cost? (seeing as how we're talking licence fees here)
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keanjo
Super Member

United Kingdom
1298 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2019 :  15:33:39 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The government are trying to wriggle out of the responsibility for this but people have more sense than to believe their denials . Will the new PM find a way to reverse the decision?
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lilly
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United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2019 :  16:01:41 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So an old immigrant coming into our country and claiming pension credit, having never put a penny into the pot can have a free TV licence. But those born here, worked and paid into the system, many just over the line for claiming pension credit now has to pay £150 a year.

What a way to treat our OAPs. The BBC should be ashamed.
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ddraig
Super Member

United Kingdom
1567 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2019 :  17:56:06 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can check this out to some degree here;
https://fullfact.org/immigration/pensioners-or-refugees/
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lilly
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United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2019 :  18:29:10 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was describing an immigrant with legal status given to remain in the UK.
Not an illegal immigrant who would not be eligible.
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ddraig
Super Member

United Kingdom
1567 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2019 :  18:38:52 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, I don't know where you got this information from but I can't find anything that particularly verifies it, maybe you could post a link lilly? not disputing this, it's a fact that if you've worked all your life and paid in money for your pension you don't get the benefits that someone who hasn't done a stroke all their life gets, it doesn't seem fair that they're better off.
https://fullfact.org/immigration/migration-and-welfare-benefits/

Edited by - ddraig on 15/06/2019 18:45:12
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SeaWolf86
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204 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2019 :  19:13:21 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I get lilly's point. Most foreign pensioners, sad to say, have a very small pension comparing to UK standards. This means that they qualify to simply every possible benefit (including pension credit). British OAP in great majority will have an income above the maximum threshold to get pension credit and free tv license. I might be wrong.
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keanjo
Super Member

United Kingdom
1298 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2019 :  08:52:39 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some of us thought that the BBC needed the extra revenue they would get by robbing pensioners of their free licence ,in order to improve their services or programme quality. Today it has been confirmed the cash would be used to increase theiralready inflated salaries. I hope they are proud of themselves ,
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lilly
Advanced Member

United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2019 :  12:33:38 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Turned me right off Walkers Crisps.
I'm thinking Gary Lineker is getting enough cash from the BBC without the adverts job.
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milkman
Super Member

United Kingdom
1498 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2019 :  17:18:40 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just off-topic BUT
Did you see that Jason Mohamed is on £350K pa.
That is the same as Winkleman.
I really do not think that Beeb has any notion of how we think.
Those figures mean that relatively unimportant non-personalities get twice what the PM earns.
The world is going crazy (Sorry- I should have written- The Beeb is going etc)
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SeaWolf86
Advanced Member

204 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2019 :  17:52:27 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"You know what? I have an idea. What do you think if we brainwash people and make them pay for it? Do you think it will work?"
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Angel
Advanced Member

395 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2019 :  19:56:12 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I feel the same lilly why does he need to do the walkers advertisements for .The way things are today those that have will get more people that need help can go and fish.What a selfish world we live in .The BBC show mostly repeats but hey thatís ok letís hit the older people most of them have worked all their lives and a lot of them the only company they have is their tvís .
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lilly
Advanced Member

United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2019 :  20:14:50 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Angel

I feel the same lilly why does he need to do the walkers advertisements for .The way things are today those that have will get more people that need help can go and fish.What a selfish world we live in .The BBC show mostly repeats but hey thatís ok letís hit the older people most of them have worked all their lives and a lot of them the only company they have is their tvís .


Yes Angel,he really doesn't need to top up his wages.
He just plain greedy.
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keanjo
Super Member

United Kingdom
1298 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2020 :  16:16:37 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems Seawolfe Ďs forecast is correct .Millions of the over 75s have failed to cough up and the BBC HAVE to decide on their next step.? I hope pensioners wiont cough up and letís see the next move ,Maybe they will cut some of those exorbitant salaries they pay themselves.
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darole
Super Member

United Kingdom
2583 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2020 :  10:34:05 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The government say that the cost of supplementing the tv licence for the over 75s cannot be continued to put it simply they cannot afford it. Yet they donít hesitate spending vast amounts of money on making sure that illegal immigrants get far more in benefits than the old age pensioners who have contributed over their whole working life.
This government needs to realise that they are wrong and reverse the decision on licensing
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milkman
Super Member

United Kingdom
1498 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2020 :  16:55:42 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi darole, Your argument is absolutely right.
Unfortunately many "so-called" liberals seem to want these immigrants to come to UK and be "well" looked after.A few weeks ago a woman from Caerleon was featured having been in Calais looking after them. Just this week another was saying" We are supposed to be a kind, caring country but we are allowing them to be in such camps in France".
Do not ask me. We pay France about a half million a year to assist us.
Not too much assisting as far as I can see
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djholly
Super Member

803 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2020 :  17:10:03 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The problem is the French escort the migrants into britit waters, hand them over to UK border patrol who then escort them to Dover. They are then sent to stay at 4* hotels until their immigration is assessed which majority are approved.
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TimR
New Member

3 Posts

Posted - 20/08/2020 :  16:11:07 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The problem exists because we and the Americans bombed the sh*t out of these people, leaving them no homes. I did tours of Afghanistan and Iraq, so I know because I saw what we did. it is no wonder there are investigations into unlawful killings.
Why haven't we rebuilt homes and built factories to provide work for them over there. We would spend a lot less doing that and we would have the morale high ground.

Tim
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