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Cae
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Posted - 02/06/2020 :  23:42:28 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here it is - appendix B point 2 mentions "use media to increase sense of personal threat."
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/882722/25-options-for-increasing-adherence-to-social-distancing-measures-22032020.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3CEjVOzfBxhnW5zHvDXRNFwU4zFNIjLrWBemnZOTEfj8rbHh_erwTtsF4

Edited by - Cae on 02/06/2020 23:43:30
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djholly
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Posted - 03/06/2020 :  11:32:49 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
easy now cae, you don't want to called a conspiracy nut on this site. the minutes above are really interesting. 7 for instance coercion, they state that 64% of adults would approve of putting london in lock-down. they only mention in the reference guide at the end that the 64% was conducted out of less than 4,000 people polled on a channel 5 survey held on march 19TH. that's right those deciding on and creating models/guidelines for our well-being are basing conclusions on a channel 5 poll. that in itself is unbelievable, but out of those 2,560 who would approve, where do they live?. now if i was asked about locking london down (as i live in south wales) i'd say yes as it doesn't affect me.
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Cae
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Posted - 03/06/2020 :  13:55:50 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ah well if anyone thinks it's a conspiracy they'd be accusing the Government and SAGE as it's their own official documents! If anyone hasn't read them it's well worth a read as I said- they are official SAGE documents - they didn't want them released but the current court case application by Simon Dolan has made them available for public scrutiny- the Government initially refused to release them but last week they did a U turn and we can now view them.
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keanjo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/06/2020 :  14:18:52 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was Boris really Iíll or was it all part of the Ď weríre all in it togetherí campaign ?
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Cae
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Posted - 03/06/2020 :  15:50:58 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Honestly I've got no idea - I'm 50-50 on it - at the start of all this we knew nothing and I just went along with it - partly because I have M.E. but also until I and others did their own digging- and I mean info from highly qualified experts- medics, professors etc- not conspiracy folk.
What was concerning was that these genuine experts are often having their interviews pulled off the internet - by people like the army's 77th Brigade- yes I'm afraid they are genuine and official - some of you may know their previous title of the Security Assistance Group. They are tasked with tracing and removing "disinformation" which has often come from medics, doctors etc who have vast experience of working with virus, patient outcomes etc. Instead of welcoming their help anything that doesn't comply with the Govt's stance on Covid or lockdown is just removed- and thankfully there's a lot of people busy putting them back up again!
Some people may have scoffed at DJ Holly's use of the word "Coercion" but I'm very sorry to say it's not his choice of words- it comes from one of the official documents.
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ddraig
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/06/2020 :  10:40:16 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just saying, Simon Dolan is a multi-millionaire who doesn't live in the UK, has filed a high court challenge against Englands lockdown rules, isn't paying for it himself but through crowdfunding (savvy move) and seems to be more worried about his businesses than anything or anyone else.
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Cae
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Posted - 04/06/2020 :  13:35:19 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know who he is but I'm grateful that his challenge has at the very least let us see the documents from the SAGE group that have been advising / deciding on the "lock-up" - the Govt have back-tracked saying they've been released as they welcome transparency- but the meetings began in March and even earlier last month they point blank refused to let us see the minutes of the meetings. It's only now due to the legal challenge that we've been granted access.
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djholly
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Posted - 08/06/2020 :  19:21:45 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8396209/Actor-Tony-Robinson-slams-government-manslaughter-care-home-deaths.html
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djholly
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Posted - 11/06/2020 :  15:44:05 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
some will but most won't, anyways - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWsyNB95ljY
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Cae
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Posted - 30/06/2020 :  13:06:44 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thankfully couples in Wales can start seeing each other again from next Monday! And thank goodness it's the full extended household rules so you don't need to be living alone to qualify. What has me shaking my head in bewilderment is that in England you can stay overnight BUT MUST MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING!! What the ???!!! That nonsense doesn't apply in Wales so couples you can cwtch again from Monday!!!!
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SeaWolf86
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Posted - 30/06/2020 :  14:31:03 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In England social distancing is reduced to 1 meter. Which I think is way to risky. 1.2 meters sounds more appropriate. Does anybody take this bullsh*t still seriously?
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djholly
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Posted - 30/06/2020 :  14:47:27 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
27 police injured in one weekend due to black lives matter march which was "a mostly peaceful" event according to the government, thousands go to beaches over the weekend and it's "a disgrace and selfish act". looks like covid knows where a counties border is also, pubs can open in england but stay shut in scotland and wales??.
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